Orlando Unveils 2024 US Olympic Marathon Trials Course, Announces Races Will Start at 12:10 and 12:20 pm ET
By LetsRun.comJust over six months out from race day, organizers revealed the course for the 2024 U.S. Olympic Team Trials – Marathon on Tuesday morning. The race, which will be held on February 3, 2024, in Orlando, Fla., will consist of one 2.2-mile loop through the downtown business district and three 8-mile loops through the city’s Milk District — so-called because it features the headquarters of T.G. Lee Dairy, which has been based in the area for 98 years. It will start and finish at the Walt Disney Amphitheater at Lake Eola Park. None of the course will run through Disney World, which is located to the southeast of the city of Orlando.
Unlike the Paris Olympic marathon course, which features considerable climbing and descending during the middle of the race, the Orlando course is relatively flat, with few small inclines but a variation of just 38 feet (11.6 meters) between the course’s lowest and highest points.
Mid-Day Start Time
Getting the actual course layout is nice but not that significant. We knew the course was going to be mostly flat as Orlando is mostly flat.
Organizers also announced something more significant: the start times for the race. The men will begin at 12:10 p.m. ET with the women to follow at 12:20 p.m. ET. Both races will be shown in their entirety on NBC.
With basically a noon start in Florida, it’s possible the race could be run in quite warm conditions. The debate of the once-rumored but now confirmed 12ish start times has been intense on the LRC forums for over a month now.
A couple of Trials veterans have already shared their thoughts, with Sara Hall and Des Linden offering contrasting viewpoints. Hall, who is known to not like racing in hot weather, expressed concern about the heat and the safety of the athletes. She even challenged USATF CEO Max Siegel to run a hot weather marathon this summer.
In this history of marathoning has a marathon ever been held in the middle of the day in 90 degree humid weather?
Is there any precedence for this even being safe?— Sara Hall (@SaraHall3) August 1, 2023
@Max_Siegel I invite you to give it a test run this summer somewhere and report back.
— Sara Hall (@SaraHall3) August 1, 2023
It must be noted that Orlando has not seen a 90-degree day in February since 1962.
Meanwhile, two-time Olympian Linden had no issue with the start time and thought it could boost her chances of making the team by running smart.
Unpopular opinion but as someone who starts my runs at ~11am I’m pretty geeked on the extra hour to goof around before training. Warmer temps should slightly minimize the pace of super shoes and reward smart racing.
So you’re sayin’ there’s a chance?! Count me in! https://t.co/qS7D9WsNj1
— des_linden (@des_linden) August 1, 2023
For those interested in what the weather is typically like in Orlando on February 3, here’s a look at the temperature, wind, and dew point at specific times from 2012-22.
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Temp (F) on February 3 in Orlando since 2012
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| 6 a.m. | 8 a.m. | 10 a.m. | 12 p.m. | 2 p.m. | 4 p.m. | |
| 2022 | 59 | 62 | 72 | 78 | 81 | 81 |
| 2021 | 41 | 41 | 45 | 51 | 56 | 59 |
| 2020 | 47 | 50 | 62 | 69 | 72 | 73 |
| 2019 | 62 | 62 | 64 | 69 | 70 | 72 |
| 2018 | 54 | 55 | 61 | 66 | 66 | 65 |
| 2017 | 56 | 56 | 69 | 75 | 78 | 79 |
| 2016 | 69 | 70 | 76 | 80 | 83 | 83 |
| 2015 | 43 | 43 | 52 | 60 | 65 | 66 |
| 2014 | 64 | 64 | 73 | 79 | 84 | 85 |
| 2013 | 46 | 44 | 59 | 66 | 69 | 70 |
| 2012 | 61 | 63 | 68 | 73 | 73 | 73 |
| Avg | 54.7 | 55.5 | 63.7 | 69.6 | 72.5 | 73.3 |
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| Median Temp | 56 | 56 | 64 | 69 | 72 | 73 |
| Proj. Paris August 11, 2024s | 64 | 64 | 66 | 70 | 73 | 74 |
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Wind (mph) on February 3 in Orlando since 2012
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| 6 a.m. | 8 a.m. | 10 a.m. | 12 p.m. | 2 p.m. | 4 p.m. | |
| 2022 | 6 | 7 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 10 |
| 2021 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 11 | 8 |
| 2020 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| 2019 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 8 | 8 |
| 2018 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 8 | 7 |
| 2017 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 5 |
| 2016 | 3 | 4 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 8 |
| 2015 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 5 |
| 2014 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 |
| 2013 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 8 | 6 |
| 2012 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 8 | 9 |
| Avg. Wind | 3.3 | 3.1 | 5.6 | 7.8 | 7.6 | 6.6 |
| Median wind | 3 | 1 | 4 | 8 | 8 | 7 |
| Proj. Paris August 11, 2024 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 8 |
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Dew point (F) on February 3 in Orlando since 2012
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| 6 am | 8 am | 10 am | 12 pm | 2 pm | 4 pm | |
| 2022 | 57 | 59 | 64 | 61 | 61 | 61 |
| 2021 | 31 | 30 | 28 | 29 | 22 | 22 |
| 2020 | 44 | 47 | 49 | 47 | 45 | 45 |
| 2019 | 62 | 62 | 64 | 65 | 65 | 65 |
| 2018 | 46 | 47 | 50 | 53 | 53 | 53 |
| 2017 | 54 | 55 | 61 | 62 | 60 | 58 |
| 2016 | 68 | 69 | 71 | 70 | 69 | 68 |
| 2015 | 35 | 37 | 43 | 47 | 49 | 48 |
| 2014 | 63 | 63 | 71 | 69 | 66 | 63 |
| 2013 | 37 | 41 | 48 | 48 | 48 | 44 |
| 2012 | 60 | 61 | 63 | 60 | 59 | 59 |
| Avg Dew Point | 50.6 | 51.9 | 55.6 | 55.5 | 54.3 | 53.3 |
| Median Dew Point | 54 | 55 | 61 | 60 | 59 | 59 |
| Proj. Paris August 11, 2024 | 54 | 55 | 55 | 55 | 55 | 55 |
LRC Thoughts: We support the mid-day start time
If the goal of the Olympic Marathon Trials was for every athlete to run their fastest possible race, obviously it would be better to start the race earlier, but there are other concerns. Television is the reason why the race is being held in the afternoon (there’s not a huge amount of West Coasters watching TV at 5 or 6 a.m. on a Saturday). The 2016 Trials began at 1:06 p.m. ET (10:06 a.m. local in Los Angeles) while the 2020 Trials in Atlanta began at 12:08 p.m. ET. Both races were shown on NBC in their entirety.
The fact is, in professional sports, there are often competing interests — what’s best for the athletes isn’t always what’s best for TV, and someone is going to be unhappy. USATF designed its US championships schedule this year with athletes in mind but the result was that USATF could not get the US outdoor championships shown on NBC. With the Trials, USATF is prioritizing the broadcast on NBC with the athletes a secondary consideration. You can be mad about one of those two things, but not both.
Orlando can be warm in February, no doubt about it — from 2012-22, the average temperature at 2 p.m. on February 3 was 73 degrees. But guess which race also is warm? The Olympic marathon. The Olympic marathons will be held on July 10-11, 2024. On July 10-11 this year, it was 73 degreees at 10 a.m. in Paris, which is when the marathons would be nearing their completion (8 a.m. start times).
In general, we are for athletics to be on live TV so we are fine with the races being scheduled for 12:10 and 12:20. We do believe if the temperatures are truly extreme (say 75 or higher at the start, certainly 80), USATF should move the race up and show it on tape-delay. But if you’re looking for conditions that mirror the Olympic marathon, Orlando in February is not a bad facsimile.
The one big issue we still have is with the new Olympic qualifying system. If you haven’t run under 2:11:30 for the men or 2:29:30 for the women during the qualifying window, you aren’t going to the Olympics even if you are in the top three. We think that’s ridiculous but those are the rules. That’s tough to do in warm weather. While it’s very unlikely someone who hasn’t run at least 2:11:30 or 2:29:30 in the window finishes top three, it could happen in the case of someone just moving up the marathon like Molly Seidel did in 2020 or someone coming back from injury or maternity leave like Kellyn Taylor.
We really wish WA would simply accept the top three from the Trials since the US is sending three per gender most likely no matter what happens, but we’d rather take the small risk that someone without the 2:11:30/2:29:30 times is top three and have the race be on live TV than put it early in the morning. Plus athletes could chase the time up until April 30 and we’d love to see WA have to take the PR hit of someone on the way back from maternity leave having to run a time. Maybe it would finally make them let the spots go to countries as long as the countries hold legitimate trials.
(To cover all our bases, it’s worth noting there’s a small chance on the men’s side that the US has only one or two qualified men’s athletes at the start of the Trials. We’re pretty sure we’ll have at least three but it’s not set in stone and we won’t know for sure until after the fall marathon season is over. If that’s the case, then the start time is more problematic as the US men would either have to hit the 2:08:10 auto standard or run fast enough to raise their world ranking into a qualification spot. If that’s the case and the US men don’t have three spots guaranteed, we think the men’s start time should be moved up and shown on tape delay but keep the women’s race as scheduled).
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